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PODCAST 151: Leads Don’t Matter: Moving From a Sales-led to a Product-growth Orientation with Stephanie Cox

Sales Hacker

And I knew him because he started Aprimo and was the CEO of there. We used to do a lot of direct mail, but direct mail, got a little bit more complicated last year to get in front of people too. One of them was Bill Godfrey, one of the founders of Lumavate. So I took the coffee.